Subject: Interesting stuff about Mimansa. ... Me; Just dropping in for a moment.

From: "Akhet" <here@home.earth>
news:<hdv3kk$2crp$1@news.telesweet.net>

-------------- http://www.experiencefestival.com/mimansa (Who's computer is this?)
Atheism is a Truly Divine Science

In 'The Song Divine', Krishna classifies nature as material nature and supernature.
He says that supernature is incomprehensible to people who are not in tune with the subtlety of infinity.
We think we choose to live, but the fact is we have no independent will to be born.
Beyond food, sex and territory, animals are not aware of any other reality;
they also do not have any aspirations towards immortality.
Since there is no fear or idea of death in their lives,
they have no concept of God or codified system of philosophy.
They live by instinct and die without seeking to prolong their lives.
----------

Even if I consider myself one of the most 'Theist' dude on this planet. :))
I'm not offenced by the 'Atheist' connotation here; But mostly stucked by the relation
with Krishna, and this rather impressive description of animalistic determinations;
Where humanity strongly differs.


Here is a more classical definition ressource:

http://dictionary.babylon.com/Mimansa (Who's computer is this?)
Mimansa (Sanskrit) [from the verbal root man to think] Profound thought, profound consideration;
one of the six Darsanas or Hindu schools of philosophy. There are two Mimansas, the older or Purva-mimansa,
founded by Jaimini, and the younger or Uttara-mimansa founded by Vyasa.
The older is commonly known as the Mimansa, and the younger as the Vedanta.
While the Uttara-mimansa is usually considered by European Orientalists to be the later in time,
it contains the philosophic key to the entire system and in other senses may be called
the theosophy of the Vedas. The word vedanta itself means "end of the Veda,"
in the sense of being its philosophical explication or completion.
-------- http://www.thefreedictionary.com/Mimamsa (Who's computer is this?)

Leading to some more on Upanishads:

The ninth chapter of the Taittiriya Upanishad says:
--------------------- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Upanishads (Who's computer is this?)
He who knows the Bliss of Brahman (divine consciousness)..does not distress himself
with the thought "why did I not do what is good? why did I do what is evil?".
Whoever knows this (bliss) regards both of these as Atman (self, soul),
indeed he cherishes both as Atman. Such, indeed, is the Upanishad,
the secret knowledge of Brahman.

*****************************************************
Very interesting stuff... :)
http://www.dvaita.org/shaastra/upanishad.html (Who's computer is this?)

*****************************************************
WOW ?.. This appears to be at complete opposite of my current beliefs:

------ QUOTE:
"Consequently, Idealism or the world being merely a projection, which is unreal,
is also taken to be a tenet of the Upanishads. Thus upaasanaa (worship) and bhakti (devotion)
are relegated to a secondary position, being needed only up to a point
in the spiritual evolution of the soul. Liberation, the final goal of spiritual development
becomes less attractive, as the seeker loses his own identity in his merger with the Absolute.
The entire process of Creation delineated with such great care in the Upanishads
is reduced to a mere illusion.
--------

Just later They write:
======
The Supreme Principle is described as the Creator, Sustainer, Regulator, Destroyer, Enlightener and Liberator of all.
======

Is not that a bit 'reductionnist' to determine such a number of 'forms' then to resume as a single supreme principle ?
Haha! :)


While on the other hand this makes perfect 'sense to me'....
-------
. prakrti or primordial Nature is the material cause of the world, while God is the efficient cause.
-------


I kinda 'Like their take of a rationalisation of the un-rationalisable' :D
----- Nature of God
The Unique nature of the Supreme is explained in the verses anejadekam ...," etc.
(verses 4 to 8). He is everywhere. He is near and yet also far away.
He is within and without. He moves but does not move.
These apparently contradictory attributes reveal his achintya shakti -- unthinkable ability.
He has no praak.rta body, either subtle or gross. He is eternal,
free from defects. He is a "sarvaj~na" (knows everything).
He regulates all. He has truly created this real world.
--------


COOL:: Further I read this amazing set of beliefs.

"Yama makes it clear that God knowledge cannot be obtained only by logic or learning the scriptures.
It is God who chooses the deserving and gives them His vision.
The statement yameva eshha vR^iNute, embodying this principle of God choosing His devotee for revealing Himself,
is the cornerstone of Theism and Bhakti. "

That leave a little room for 'hope' and Enlightenment. ^^

<AkhET practicing>
OM
OM
OM OM OM

Web-based Usenet tools, including news resources archive, news server search, posting and retrieving of Usenet messages, Dialer protection, and forgery cancellations. Free. alt.dreams.castaneda FAQ Sources